Anitra and Jason are two type nerds, who share the strange and wonderful stories of the typefaces we read every day (and their mutual disdain for the typeface Goudy)

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Transcript is set in Gill Sans

Episode Two / Gill Sans

Due to technical issues during recording, we skip our advertised feature on Times New Roman; although fear not, we will return to Times New Roman in the future. Instead we focus on Gill Sans, and Eric Gill, type designer and religious artist, with a sideline in erotic woodcuts.


Jason warns that luxuriant facial hair combined with smock-wearing are a red flag, and Anitra confesses some disturbing revelations mean she is no longer a fan of Eric Gill or Chris Pratt. We agree that Gill Sans is not a typeface for beginners, and discuss the hazards of uneven proportions in letterforms. Anitra laments that Gill Sans being the “British Helvetica” doesn’t wash with Americans.

Weblinks referenced in this episode:

The Four Gospels

The Gill Sans Font Family (scroll down for Gill Sans Ultra Bold)


Episode One / Futura


In this first episode we talk about Futura, that most versatile of modernist typefaces and its designer Paul Renner, the OG Anti-fa.


Anitra tells Jason why the Nazis hated Latin typefaces. We argue about the merits of mathematical proportions and Jason unfairly compares Type Designer Mathew Carter to a character from Game of Thrones.


Websites and books referenced in this episode:


Biography of Renner:

University of Kansas Bio of Renner (that everyone else shamelessly ripped off):


About the women of the Bauhaus:


Getty Research Institute:

Just My Type / Simon Garfield 
Elements of Typographic Style / Robert Bringhurst

Here is a transcript set in Futura!